TSD: S1 | E6 - Is SEO Dead Because of AI? The Real Answer (and What to Do Next)

Dec 17, 2025
40 mins

Episode Description

Guest

Michelle Bourbonniere, PhD — SEO strategist, researcher, and founder of Words on the Rise
Freebie: Cheat Sheet to Showing Up Well in AI Answers → words on the rise.com/ai

What we cover

  • Is SEO dead because of AI? What’s still true, and what’s changing
  • The big shift: AI tools now have access to live search results (and why that matters for small businesses)
  • How Google’s AI can personalize results based on what you’ve read vs. haven’t read (helpful… and creepy)
  • Why AI Overviews and AI Mode are rewriting your message — and how that affects trust + conversions
  • The difference between using AI for generating (emails, scripts) vs searching (recommendations, providers)
  • Why being “a dietitian” isn’t enough: how AI personalization can reward specific audiences + specialties
  • Off-page SEO is evolving: brand mentions can matter more than backlinks in AI search
  • Reddit: how to show up without being salesy (and why etiquette + credibility matter)
  • Michelle’s “3 R’s” framework for AI visibility:
    • Recognition (does AI understand your brand?)
    • Reputation (what does AI say when someone searches your name + reviews?)
    • Results (do you appear when someone searches for a provider like you?)
  • A practical starting point: test your visibility in an incognito window
  • The “wait, WHAT?” moment: AI pulling info from your terms & conditions because it’s the clearest writing
  • Are blog posts still worth it? When they do make sense, and when they’re not the best use of time
  • Recipe blogs and indexing reality: why Google may ignore “one more chocolate chip cookie recipe”

Action steps mentioned

  • Open an incognito browser window and test prompts your ideal clients would ask
  • Check whether AI gets your business basics right (services, specialties, location/licensure)
  • Make your most important info clear + concise on the pages you actually want AI to cite
  • Build consistent brand mentions across platforms (podcasts, bios, socials, community spaces)

Listen/learn more

  • Download Michelle’s cheat sheet: https://wordsontherise.com/ai
  • Subscribe to her newsletter for ongoing AI search updates (sent about every two weeks)
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