Rising artist Spencer Sutherland stops by for an episode packed with tequila tastings, Elvis deep-dives, and the brutal (and inspiring) realities of building a career in 2024.

Richard and Spencer talk going viral by accident, touring the world without a giant hit, chasing authenticity over “goal-post pop,” and how bell-bottoms, TikTok, and pure determination reshaped his career.

It’s a hilarious, honest conversation about dreams, delusion, vision, and what it really takes to survive the music business today.

A must-listen for artists, fans, and anyone manifesting their future.