Today we’re joined by Scott Kupor, Director of the Office of Personnel Management. I think of it as the federal HR department — he makes a compelling case that it’s really the government’s talent management organization.

Scott manages talent for an organization of 2+ million people with a $7 trillion budget.

We discuss:

* How DOGE cut federal headcount — and what comes next?

* Why agencies rehired employees they had just laid off

* How few federal employees get fired for poor performance

* What OPM can do without congressional help

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