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Tyler spent 11 hours mic'd up at a youth hockey rink — and the parent interviews changed everything.

After spending a full day together at a youth hockey rink, Tyler and Brandon sit down to unpack what came out of the day — especially the parent interviews, the money stress that quietly fuels rink-side tension, and how it's somehow become normal to treat refs like part of the entertainment. Plus, the conversation takes a sharp turn into baseball as Tyler and Brandon debate the new ABS challenge system and whether technology is the enemy of the human element — or its best defense.

⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 – Intro

00:39 – Brandon is now a youth referee influencer

01:05 – Was the GoPro too uncomfortable?

02:22 – How accurately did the video capture a real ref's day?

03:14 – What surprised Brandon watching back

04:27 – The money stress angle neither saw coming

07:30 – Why is it accepted to yell at refs?

08:30 – Lack of repercussions and what should change

11:57 – Feedback from Brandon's uncle, a 25-year ref

12:31 – What the parent interviews revealed about training gaps

13:37 – Debunking the myth: should refs call games differently late?

16:17 – Getting people interested in refereeing

18:09 – The Nashville Predators trick for teaching fans the game

20:18 – The altruistic case for officiating

22:05 – The biggest misconception: refs actually have fun

23:19 – The hidden cost of being a referee

25:38 – Should the sport subsidize equipment for officials?

27:38 – MLB's new ABS challenge system: human element vs. accuracy

30:17 – NFL pass interference and where technology belongs in sport

32:14 – The real takeaway: what refs are doing is hard

33:56 – Outro