Most of us hear placebo and assume we're being fooled. Tami thought so too. Then Shamini Jain — clinical psychologist, biofield scientist, and author of Healing Ourselves — told her the placebo effect is actually our own healing response at work. You don't have to be tricked to get better.

Mallory and Chris have spent the past year and a half working on a podcast about energy healing and Sounds True is offering—right now—an immersion course on energy healing featuring Shamini Jain as well as Robert Peng and Laurie Nealon…so, now felt like the perfect time to bring this conversation back. And maybe rename that elephant for good.

Taken from the full Insights at the Edge conversation with Shamini Jain. Listen here: https://bit.ly/shamini-jain

Phenomena: The Science and Stories of Energy Healing: https://bit.ly/phenomena-pod

The Subtle Energy Healing Immersion Program: https://bit.ly/subtle-energy-healing

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