Jenny Kiefer returns to the show to talk about her latest novel, Crafting for Sinners, available October 7, 2025 from Quirk Books. With Trevor, she talks about her thoughts on religious cults and the catharsis of horror, and more.

You can find more from Jenny Kiefer at jennykiefer.carrd.co, and you can get Crafting for Sinners now from your favorite book retailer or at your local library.

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