For many of us, following our passions doesn’t always pay the bills. But sometimes, the right idea (and a little grit) can change that.

In this special episode created in partnership with Capital One Venture X Business Card, we sat down with Kristen Dermer, a CEO who took her childhood passion for skateboarding and turned it into a career. Kirsten, the co-founder of Spohn Ranch, told us all about how she built her award-winning skatepark design-build business from the ground up. Click play, lean back, and prepare to get inspired. 

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