Episode Description
What does it actually take to change how an entire market understands a problem it doesn't yet know it has? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, host Natalie Nathanson talks with Yossi Appleboum, co-founder and CEO of Sepio, about building a cybersecurity company around a category that barely existed when he started it. Yossi shares why he refuses to sell fear, how he can tell when a prospect's thinking has actually shifted, what it costs in time and money to educate a market from the ground up, and how the investor conversation changes entirely once a company moves from early traction into scale. He also opens up about leadership lessons from three decades of company-building, giving his co-founders and team room to grow, and how his family history shapes the way he thinks about bringing value to the world.
Takeaways:
- Educate before you pitch. In less mature markets, walk buyers through the risk itself rather than assuming they already see the problem.
- Skip the fear-based pitch. Build trust through dialogue and honest questions instead of worst-case scenarios and pressure.
- Watch for buyers echoing your language back to you. It's an early signal the idea has landed, well before any deal closes.
- Match your investor search to your sales cycle. Companies selling to large enterprises need investors willing to accept a longer path to revenue.
- Give co-founders and senior hires room to lead. Avoid showing up as a unified front to every meeting so others can grow into the space.
- Simplify your message as you move down-market. What works with sophisticated early buyers won't land with less experienced ones.
- Keep helping the next generation of founders. Small, consistent mentorship compounds across an industry over time.
Quote of the Show:
- "You don't sell fear, and you should not sell fear, because then you're losing credibility."
Links:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yossi-appleboum-2019/
- Website: https://sepiocyber.com
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