In this episode, Kimberly speaks with Jaye Marolla, a bodyworker, martial artist, Qigong teacher, and founder of The Body Innate and the Yin Dojo in Santa Fe, New Mexico. They explore the integration of martial arts, bodywork, and Qigong as a path of healing and sovereignty, and what Jaye calls "yin warriorship:" a reclamation of the warrior archetype rooted in surrender, Eros, and facing one's own mortality rather than competition or heroism. They discuss how Jaye came to open her home as a dojo, the ancient tradition of merging practice space with living space, and the energetic responsibility that requires. The conversation moves through the role of Eros and sexuality in training spaces, the difference between safety and emergence, the trauma frame versus a vitality frame, and what it means to lead atmospheres rather than follow scripts. They also explore queerness as a state of questioning, the tension between sovereignty and individualism, and the concept of couples dojos as somatic spaces for partnership.

 

Bio

Jaye Marolla is a bodyworker, martial artist, and Qigong practitioner based in Santa Fe, New Mexico, where she runs the Yin Dojo. She is the founder of The Body Innate and has trained extensively in multiple martial arts traditions including Aikido and Jiu Jitsu, as well as Thai bodywork, which she studied for three years with a master teacher in Thailand. A former Division 1 basketball player, Jaye integrates decades of physical training with Taoist philosophy, somatic practice, and community-based teaching. Her work sits at the intersection of yin warriorship, Eros, and embodied leadership, and she teaches martial arts, Qigong, bodywork, and leadership through emergent, atmosphere-based practice. She also leads couples dojos and collaborates with practitioners including Stephen Jackson on retreats exploring death, embodiment, and communal practice.

 

What She Shares:

– How the Yin Dojo came to be in her home in Santa Fe

– The ancient tradition of integrating bodywork and martial arts under one roof

– Yin warriorship as a response to cultural chaos and the call of the body

– Vitality and animism versus the pathological medicine frame

– The role of Eros, eroticism, and sexuality in training spaces

– Her journey from D1 basketball to Thai bodywork to martial arts teaching

– Couples dojos as somatic, embodied spaces for partnership

– Queerness as a state of questioning and healthy boundary transgression

 

What You'll Hear:

– Kimberly's introduction to Jaye's work and their collaboration at Ghost Ranch

– Creating a home-based dojo and the energetic configuration of practice, treatment, and living space

– The interplay of healing and combat knowledge across traditions

– Why body workers need to train their own bodies

– Sovereignty versus taking on others' energy in bodywork

– Transitioning from an all-women's dojo to an all-gender space

– The "toxic masculinity" conversation and the abandonment of the masculine

– Leadership as emergent, atmosphere-based, and rooted in physical training

– The creation of atmospheres: moving away from comparative gaze toward cooperative gaze

– Warriorship as a dying art rooted in death awareness, not competition

– Frames beyond trauma: warriorship, vitality, eroticism

– Training for three years in Thailand and the gray space of becoming a practitioner

– The necessity of being in the flesh in a technological age

– Eros in training spaces: the puritanical bind of encouraging then discouraging the body's response

– Self-modulation and erotic sovereignty as a resource

– Sovereignty versus individualism: belonging and exile

– The trauma orientation as a cultural and capitalist hindrance

– Simple ceremony and self-reverent practice

– Yin and Yang: growing capacity in both simultaneously

– Emergent teaching versus deterministic scripts in group spaces

– Safety as a placation of wildness versus supportive disorientation

– Queerness as living off the main path and transgressing boundaries healthily

– What "the layers between" means: space, Yin, and limitless possibility

– Couples dojos: somatic conversations beyond the sexual context

 

Resources

Business: The Body Innate

Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico

Website: https://www.thebodyinnate.com/

IG: @thebodyinnate