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Calum & Sophie Macfarlane of Lewa House talk about the Lewa Conservancy in Kenya that has been a leader in Rhino preservation, and much more.

Hosted by acclaimed Safari Specialist Karin Jones.

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Lewa House - Calum & Sophie Macfarlane

Episode Description

Never lose your place, on any device