"This is a natural progression of how to protect your borders. And the other advantage is that it's cheaper; it's already there. So I can see that as demands on the defence budgets go up and up and up, that warWilding will become more and more prominent because it's a cash win-win situation for the beleaguered defence budgets." 

Ben's latest guest is Jasper Humphreys, director of programmes for the Marjan Study Group in the department of war studies at King’s College London who has coined a new phrase: warWilding, “using nature in warfare”. 

In the early days of the Russia-Ukraine war the dying Irpin River was reflooded for the first time in more than 70 years. The rising water stopped the Russians literally in their tracks, leaving behind a trail of tanks and military hardware. 

In this episode find out how Jasper thinks that warWilding can be used by military departments at a time when budgets and resources appear thin. 

Ben Goldsmith is a British financier and rewilding enthusiast. Join him as he speaks to people from all over the world who champion nature and are helping to restore habitats and wildlife to some of the most nature depleted parts of our planet.

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