Episode Description
Your body can hit full panic speeds while your brain has to make courtroom-clean decisions. That tension sits at the center of my conversation with Eric Robinson, a former pastor turned FBI agent who spent 24 years in the Bureau and served on SWAT. We get real about what it means to approach a door knowing you might meet violence, and why true calm is not bravado, it is competence built through training, repetition, and trust in your teammates.
Eric walks us through a deadly force encounter that includes the grim reality of suicide by cop, the adrenaline surge that can slam your heart rate into the 170s, and the strange way time can feel stretched while everything happens fast. We talk about the “fog” that can follow, the mental replay that steals sleep, and why the what if loop feels so sticky even when the shoot is justified. If you work in policing, fire, EMS, dispatch, corrections, or any high-risk role, you’ll recognize the mix of duty, humanity, and aftermath.
We also dig into what actually supports first responder mental health after critical incidents: solid leadership, a smart after-action review, optional support that people can choose, and a team culture that stays close instead of ostracizing shooters out of legal fear. Along the way we hit the odd corners of FBI work, interagency cooperation, and the dark humor that helps people survive what the public never sees. Eric also shares his “why” and previews his memoir, Irreverend: From Saving Souls to Chasing Sinners in the FBI.
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Please reach Eric through his website at http://www.preachertobreacher.com
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