It's MaxFunDrive. And here, for the first time, we give you an exclusive look (well, listen) at the craft of podcasting: presenting Casters on Casters.

In this episode, Amber Nash (RePhrasing: An Archer Rewatch Podcast) recounts what distinguishes a good podcast from a mediocre one, and J. Keith van Straaten explains how many hours go into making one episode of Go Fact Yourself.

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Edited by Laura Swisher and Produced by Hannah Muroz for Maximum Fun.

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