Chelsea Devantez, author, director and host of Glamorous Trash, joins Kate to discuss Season 5 of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Hulu’s reality series about the Utah influencers behind MomTok. They examine the shortened season, the crisis surrounding Taylor Frankie Paul, the increasingly complicated relationship between friendship and fame, and the deeper questions of faith, marriage, female agency and control at the heart of the show. 

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