Kevin Fallon is Editor-at-Large of Obsessed at The Daily Beast, host of Obsessed: The Podcast, and writer of the Obsessed substack. He joins the show for a deep dive into the pop culture corners worth obsessing over. We get into the enduring chaos of The Real Housewives, revisit the underrated charms of Ladies of London, and unpack why the new Michael Jackson biopic Michael is, in Kevin's words, a sanitized hagiography that never reckons with its subject. Kevin also pulls back the curtain on what it's really like working in media right now, and closes the conversation with three book recommendations you'll want to add to your stack. 

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