​This is The Real Take — a glimpse into the honesty, wisdom and connection at the heart of every episode of Ready to be Real.

I’m speaking with Vanessa Ogbonna, one of the winners of the very first series of The Traitors Ireland.

She once chased a bright future in football until injury and illness forced a dramatic change of course.

In this snippet she speaks about her experience of racism in Ireland — starting with how she felt during the Dublin riots in 2023.

If you’d like to hear more, the full conversation with Vanessa is available to listen to anytime now.

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