RFH 145 Artificial Intelligence and Marx’s View of Automation (interview with Gavin Mueller

Oct 25, 2025
1h 3m

Episode Description

Co-hosts Andrew Kliman and Gabriel Donnelly speak with guest Gavin Mueller, an assistant professor of New
Media and Digital Culture at the University of Amsterdam. Mueller researches the politics of digital culture and
much of our discussion centers on the realities of artificial intelligence in our time. They consider the huge
amount of money being spent on Large Language Models, how they work, and what they can actually do as
opposed to what all the hype says that they can (or will be able to???) do.
Additionally the discussants consider how workers can fight the encroachment of this new, automated
technology into the workplace. Our discussion leans on parts of Gavin’s book Breaking Things at Work: The
Luddites Are Right About Why You Hate Your Job. They consider what Marx said about technology and
automation, and how it applies to this situation.
Plus current-events segment: the co-hosts discuss the political indictments handed down from the Trumpist
Department of Justice that have targeted personal foes of Trump-James Comey, Leticia James, and John Bolton.

Radio Free Humanity is co-hosted by Gabriel Donnelly and Andrew Kliman, and sponsored by
Marxist-Humanist Initiative (https://www.marxisthumanistinitiative.org/ ).
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