This interview is our most harrowing and disturbing interview on Radio Abundance yet. It was chilling to edit. Two days before Charlie Kirk was assassination in broad daylight and President Trump announced that anyone who had ever called him a Fascist was “directly responsible for terrorism,” Congresswoman Laura Friedman sat down with Radio Abundance host Steve Boyle to lay out the case for why Trump was pursuing a march to Fascism and how she faced the ever-present threat of political violence. This interview from September 8th, 2025, serves as an important historical artifact of the mood and stakes in this nation even before Kirk’s murder, untainted by the ferocious and dangerous discourse that has followed. It is worth your time.

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