In this conversation, Zoe Booth and Adam Louis-Klein delve into the complexities of antizionism, exploring its ideological roots, the language used to propagate it, and its normalisation in contemporary society. They discuss the formation of the Movement Against Antizionism (MAAZ) and the importance of recognising antizionism as a distinct form of bigotry. The dialogue also addresses the historical context of antizionism, its evolution in academia, and the psychological warfare embedded in its rhetoric. Throughout, practical strategies are offered for countering antizionist claims—emphasising the need for clarity, courage, and a comprehensive understanding of the issue.

Adam Louis-Klein is an anthropologist and PhD candidate at McGill University. His research focuses on Indigenous cosmologies in the Colombian Amazon and comparative forms of peoplehood. He is the founder of the Movement Against Antizionism (MAAZ), which challenges antizionist ideology as a distinct form of anti-Jewish hatred. His writing and advocacy explore the intersection of academic discourse, identity, and political propaganda.

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction to Adam Louis-Klein and MAAZ

04:00 Interview begins: The Birth of MAAZ and Antizionism

09:10 Language and the Inversion of Reality

11:28 The Evolution of Antizionism

14:08 The Role of Academia in Antizionism

16:55 The Historical Context of Antizionism

19:21 Modern Antizionism and Its Global Impact

21:43 Government Responses to Antizionism

24:33 Understanding Antizionism vs. Antisemitism

27:18 The Psychological Mechanisms Behind Antizionism

29:50 The Australian Context of Antizionism

31:56 Personal Reflections on Antizionism and Academia

38:37 Indigeneity and Cultural Identity

42:22 The Complexity of Genocide Narratives

48:13 Understanding Whiteness and Cultural Concerns

52:47 Historical Atrocities and Political Violence

55:45 The Organisation of Antizionist Movements

01:04:58 The Movement Against Antizionism

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