Ed Elson speaks with Liz Hoffman about the Defense Department’s new economic defense unit. Then he is joined by Miriam Gottfried to discuss the $10 billion fee the Trump administration received for brokering the TikTok deal. Finally, Ed shares his reflections on his time at SXSW. 

Miriam Gottfried is a reporter at The Wall Street Journal. Liz Hoffman is Semafor’s Business and Finance Editor, and host of Compound Interest.

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