Ed Elson breaks down the January jobs report with Kathryn Anne Edwards, Labor Economist and host of The Optimist Economy podcast. They discuss why 2025 was the worst “non-recession” year for hiring since 2003. Then, Ed is joined by Alex Heath, founder of the Sources newsletter and host of the Access Podcast, to unpack the latest AI models, as well as a viral blog post shaking up the AI conversation. Finally, Ed explains why AI policy is so important, and why it's currently lacking. 

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