Richard and Pierce go deep on the agent swarm era. Rich argues we're living through a paradigm shift in how we interact with AI: from copy-pasting ChatGPT to orchestrating hundreds of parallel agents. They cover Anthropic's opinionated swarm architecture, why corporate org structures might be the right mental model for agent design, the liability problem when no human reviews the code, thinking tokens as a tuning knob, and whether a 100,000-line AI-generated C compiler is impressive or irrelevant.