Forest interviews Ray about his leadership experience as a senior manager for a support team. As support teams are often metrics driven the discussion gets into how to responsibly use metrics as a leader. They also discuss how to give bad news. Ray also talks to her about leadership of employee resource groups, including how to make them safer spaces.

Ray Recommends:

• Connecting with Ray on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raymondcmartinez/ 
• Speaker, coach, and author Simon Sinek: https://simonsinek.com/ 
• Gifford Thomas’s leadership first writings: https://www.leadershipfirst.net/ 

Ray suggests we interview speaker and workshop facilitator Sean Ilenrey ( https://www.corpdad.com/ ).

Music credits:

• The opening music is Like a Prism by Miyagisama .
• The closing song is Something About You by Marilyn Ford .

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