Jared and Mike speak with seasoned national security reporter Ken Klippenstein about the expansion of national surveillance programs targeting anti-ICE activists and community organizers, alongside others they consider threats to the MAGA political agenda. While DHS denies that the agency maintains databases of so-called "domestic terrorists," Ken's reporting revealed that to be plainly untrue.

Ken shares what he's learned about the watchlists and databases ICE uses, how advancements in technology them more threatening to civil liberties, and how they sit in America's history of secretive domestic surveillance programs. The guys also get Ken's take on Kash Patel's tenure as FBI director.

You'll want to fire up the Paramount+ and place that Uber Eats order for this one, but don't forget to look cool while doing it. After all, you never know who might be watching.

Links:

• ​Ken Klippenstein: Exclusive: ICE's Secret Watchlists of Americans
• ​Ken Klippenstein: ICE Making List of Anyone Who Films Them
• ​Ken Klippenstein: Exclusive: Secret ICE Programs Revealed

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