We chat about Operation Epic Fury's latest developments and the Clintons' Epstein testimony. Then, Anders talks to Kim Kelly about her reporting on Trump's unhinged Labor Secretary, the Department's reichslop content and the oft overlooked history of Frances Perkins, who used DOL's authority to dismantle the Great Depression version of ICE.

Kim's articles:

https://thebaffler.com/latest/a-piece-of-work-kelly

https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/sheris-ranch-union-united-brothel-workers/

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