Episode 16 - "Is Lego Batman real Batman?" with MJ Hibbett

June 15
1h 16m

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Is Lego Batman the real Batman?

 

This week, Steve and Christabel enlist the help of writer, podcaster, musician and fabulously knowledgeable comic book nerd Dr MJ Hibbett to answer ‘Is Lego Batman the real Batman?’. Our hosts draw on Mark’s doctoral research into how to track characters whose narratives span multiple retellings, asking whether we can ever identify individuals across depictions of them within novels, films, comic books and TV. The trio discuss a range of transmedia characters, from protagonists like The Flash, Spider-man and Superman, to antagonists like Dr Doom, Judge Dredd and the father of the original Dennis the Menace. Mark reveals the surprisingly wholesome evolution of Dennis the Menace and Minnie the Minx over three generations, and Steve (ever the contrarian) informs us that he was always more into Whizzer and Chips. 

 

Christabel draws comparisons between the fictional worlds created by artists and the possible worlds of David Lewis. She asks whether we should conceive of the fictional multiverses posited within intellectual properties like Marvel, DC Comics or Rick & Morty as spatio-temporally separated worlds, or as more like the parallel universes we find in Everettian interpretations of quantum mechanics.

 

Steve tells us how to distinguish between the Watsonian and Doylist frameworks for literary analysis, and Christabel learns in real time that Dr House is the medical reincarnation of Sherlock Holmes. Mark poses the question as to whether The Great Mouse Detective is a true retelling of Holmes’ story, and Christabel poses a metaphysical problem for supposing that this is so. She explains that according to Saul Kripke’s accounting of modal metaphysics, names ‘rigidly designate’ their owners across all possible worlds. This implies that Benedict Cumberbatch’s Sherlock is identical with Enola Holmes’ brother, which generates a philosophical problem known as ‘the problem of accidental intrinsics’. 

 

In the end, very little is concretely established, other than a commitment to the plural of Spider-man being ‘Spiders-men’. Thanks so much to Mark for sharing his multiversal expertise with us! 

 

You can find Mark at https://www.mjhibbett.co.uk/doom/data.php

 

And Steve at https://drstevecross.squarespace.com

 

Email us the impossible questions children ask you at philosophyplaydate@gmail.com

 

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