The guys open the show reacting to Indiana’s improbable 16–0 national championship season, capped by the Hoosiers knocking off Miami in the College Football Playoff. There’s a breakdown of the game itself, but the bigger conversation centers on how Curt Cignetti flipped one of the worst major-conference programs in college football history in just two seasons — and what that means for the sport moving forward.

That leads to the inevitable question: who’s the next Indiana? And after digging into the realities of modern college football, the answer may only come from the Triangle.

Switching to college basketball, The Athletic’s Brendan Marks joins the show to revisit a debate from December: who actually has the better roster, UNC or Duke? But maybe that’s the wrong framing. Maybe this season is really about coaching. What’s behind UNC’s recent struggles, can they be fixed, and how much does the ongoing conversation about the future of the Smith Center reflect a broader uncertainty about the future of Tar Heel basketball itself?

TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Mountain Time is the best time
05:00 - Indiana did it
17:00 - Larger implications of this CFP
28:00 - The "next" Indiana is NC State or UNC
36:00 - Housekeeping
42:00 - UNC or Duke's roster part two
47:00 - What's up with Caleb Wilson
1:02:00 - Smith Center debate
1:10:00 - NC State danger zone
1:23:00 - Ovies' crazy Belichick to Bills idea
1:33:00 - OG Gambling Syndicate
1:38:00 - Hey Joe

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