In this episode Toby sits down with the legend Brett Gurewitz for a part 2! He talks about their first European tour, Epitaph 2025, the sound of punk being more diverse, Drain, the year punk broke, the importance of the Punk O Rama compilations,selling out ,still pressing vinyl, streaming services and artist revenue, Ramones being his gateway to punk, how the band started, being a wild kid, partying hard and not doing well in school, putting out records while still in high school living at home, long boarding, Bad Religion, transcendental meditation at 14, hobbies, curating his social media, what punk means to him and more!

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