Daniel Arsham is one of the most commercially and conceptually ambitious artists alive, whose work asks a question that will stop you in your tracks: how will today be viewed a thousand years in the future? His work, often exploring decay and fictional archaeology, utilizes materials like crystal and volcanic ash to make modern objects appear ancient. His new book, Future Relic, is unlike anything you'll read this year: part memoir, part business manual for artists, built from decades of moving between gallery walls and global brand collaborations to personal projects, like his new cafe in Dubai. In this episode, he and host Alexandra Fairweather sit down on one of John Chamberlain's couches for a conversation that invites you to rethink your position in time.

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Timestamps: 

00:27 Introductions

01:33 How Daniel got into art

02:20 Chamberlain’s photography 

03:47 Growing up in Miami

04:54 Moving to NYC and attending art school

05:35 Navigating your art career post-grad

06:15 Daniel’s first international gallery show

08:10 Working in stage design

12:43 Mentorship and writing a book

13:32 Navigating the business side of art 

17:06 Daniel’s recent projects and travels

18:37 How Daniel got into motorsports 

19:07 Letting the art speak for itself + leaving a legacy

21:11 Collaborating with athletes 

22:40 Daniel’s Saturday morning ritual 

24:32 Origin story of Daniel’s Bonsai speaker

25:20 Using AI in the artistic process 

26:16 Daniel’s cafe in Dubai

28:20 Chamberlain’s stolen artwork 

28:50 Daniel’s new obsession with golf

30:47 Lightning-round begins

31:17 Outro

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