Are you selling AI solutions or business outcomes? (One makes money, one doesn't.) 
 
Jordan Gal hosts Craig Hewitt, founder of Castos and an AI content creator deep into his "100 Days of AI" project, alongside Chris Gimmer, co-founder of Fathom Analytics who just launched Good Metrics, a privacy-first analytics platform. Should OpenAI go public at a trillion dollars? The trio debates whether we're witnessing a bubble or the beginning of something bigger. Craig reveals why ChatGPT is "the worst AI tool" for his work—blasphemy or insight? Chris shares the painful decision to delay his launch for months after infrastructure issues. They tackle working from home versus office space, the coming wave of household robots, and why selling AI solutions directly might be the wrong approach. When will you have a robot in your house? 
 

In This Episode:  

• (00:00) Music, Mood, and Getting Into Work Mode 

• (06:05) The Work From Home Versus Office Debate 

• (12:32) OpenAI Going Public at a Trillion Dollars 

• (20:09) Craig's 100 Days of AI and Why ChatGPT Isn't the Best 

• (26:29) Chris Launches Good Metrics After Infrastructure Delays 

• (34:56) When Will You Have a Robot in Your House? 

• (35:33) Selling AI Solutions Versus Selling Business Outcomes 

• (42:54) Vibe Running Your Company and Analytics Reality 

• (48:10) Multi-Channel Attribution and Why Data Is Always Fuzzy 

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About the Show 

Jordan Gal, founder and CEO of Rosie AI, hosts the Offsite Podcast where he teams up with rotating entrepreneur friends to explore what's happening in their work and beyond. After successfully building and selling CartHook, Jordan now leads a VC-backed company while sharing candid insights about the realities of startup life. The show combines real-time business updates with deeper conversations about founder psychology, growth strategies, and the personal side of entrepreneurship that rarely gets discussed publicly. 

Resources: 
Craig Hewitt - Twitter/X: https://x.com/TheCraigHewitt 
Chris Gimmer - Twitter/X: https://x.com/cgimmer 
Rosie AI: https://heyrosie.com/ 

Chapters

• (00:00:00) - The Off-Site Podcast
• (00:00:44) - Off-Site Podcast
• (00:01:05) - What Kind Of Music Do You Listen To While Working?
• (00:06:05) - Working From Home
• (00:10:30) - Have You Really Need An Office?
• (00:12:32) - OpenAI Is Considering Going Public
• (00:14:34) - Semiconductor Bubble: Can We Still Ride It?
• (00:19:45) - ChatGPT: The Worst AI Tool in the Market
• (00:22:15) - ChatGPT vs. Google Sheets: The Race for AI
• (00:25:13) - Clickhouse's Early-Access Launch
• (00:26:32) - Facebook to Offer Early Access to its Website
• (00:27:39) - Rosie: Do We Just Launch the Product?
• (00:32:47) - Startups: First Impressions
• (00:34:56) - Are You Ready for Your Robot Home?
• (00:35:29) - Chris: Should I Do a Case Study on AI Agents?
• (00:41:11) - Will Businesses Integrate AI Into Their Analytics?
• (00:48:10) - How To Tell Where New Customers Are Coming From?