Cartoonist Ngozi Ukazu joins the show to talk about her upcoming graphic novels, Flip from First Second and Orion at DC Comics. Ukazu discusses book tour living, finding time for yourself, figuring out next steps, growing as a cartoonist, managing your workload, writing for others, the importance of having creative work outside comics, Flip's origins, autobiographical challenges, the body swap at the core of it, different types of creating, working with DC, becoming a Jack Kirby acolyte, why Orion was the right follow up, young adult graphic novels, knowing who you are, WNBA takes, and more.