This podcast is the living embodiment of managing your expectations - please keep them low… at all times. In today’s episode, Jane and Fi chat piles, the questionable nature of freestanding baths, the danger of paving stones, the similarities between CoolCat and Kim Jong Un, and estate agent jargon… Don’t say we didn’t warn you.

Plus, Zac Goldsmith, sculptor and former Tory minister, discusses his latest collection.

Our next book club pick is 'A Town Like Alice' by Nevil Shute.

Our most asked about book is called 'The Later Years' by Peter Thornton.

You can listen to our 'I'm in the cupboard on Christmas' playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1awQioX5y4fxhTAK8ZPhwQ

If you want to contact the show to ask a question and get involved in the conversation then please email us: janeandfi@times.radio

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Podcast Producers: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler

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