Fi’s still off, so Jane is holding down the fort, with some help from Eve ('fresh' from Berlin). There’s more discussion about revision, fear of failure, the eccentricities of Berlin, and Jane’s love of work (and Smash Hits).

Plus, Jane speaks to Stéphane Babonneau, the lawyer to Gisèle Pelicot. Gisèle’s book is called 'A Hymn to Life: Shame Has to Change Sides'.

Our next book club pick is 'A Town Like Alice' by Nevil Shute.

Our most asked about book is called 'The Later Years' by Peter Thornton.

You can listen to our 'I'm in the cupboard on Christmas' playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1awQioX5y4fxhTAK8ZPhwQ

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Podcast Producers: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler

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