Happy Monday! Fi's off sick, so Robbie Millen, literary editor of The Times and The Sunday Times, is keeping her seat warm - and he attempts a little poem for the privilege. Jane and Robbie chat unbroken Britain, managing younger colleagues, and Robbie shares his book picks for the week.

Robbie's picks were: 'A Far Cry From Kensington' by Muriel Spark, 'Look Closer: How to Get More Out of the Books You Love' by Robert Douglas-Fairhurst and 'A Scandal in Königsberg' by Christopher Clark.

We've announced our next book club pick! 'Just Kids' is by Patti Smith.

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