What happens when you realize the life you worked so hard to hold together no longer feels like your own?

In this episode of Notes From the Edge, Lisa Lacy sits down with Jodi Koch, CEO of Elizabeth Erin Designs and host of Designing in 5D, for a conversation that begins with interior design and quickly becomes something much bigger: divorce recovery, people-pleasing, perfectionism, childhood conditioning, hypervigilance, intuition, reinvention, and learning to trust yourself again.

Jodi shares how growing up as the child who took care of everyone shaped her into an adult who carried everything for everybody. She talks candidly about the exhaustion of a long marriage in which she often felt emotionally alone, the difficult decision to finally leave, and the realization that she had spent years listening to everyone except herself.

We explore the connection between childhood survival patterns and adult relationships, why people-pleasing can become a form of self-abandonment, and what happens when you finally stop pouring your energy into keeping everything and everyone else afloat.

Jodi also takes us inside the experiences that helped change her direction, including creating her own personal retreat, exploring plant medicine and spirituality, traveling alone, navigating divorce, rebuilding her business after a devastating disruption, and asking herself a deceptively simple question:

What does Jodi actually want now?

That question became her North Star.

And it turns out that the philosophy behind great interior design isn’t so different from creating a meaningful life. Before choosing what looks beautiful, you have to understand who is actually going to live there. You need clarity. Intention. Function. A direction that belongs to you.

Jodi shares her Designing in 5D philosophy, her intuitive approach to interior design, the importance of creating homes around the actual human beings living inside them, and how she’s using AI as a tool without removing the creativity, expertise, storytelling, and human connection that make design personal.

We also talk about decision fatigue, rebuilding after divorce, releasing perfectionism, trusting your intuition, creating safe spaces, finding your true North, and the extraordinary freedom that can come from finally saying:

This is what I want.

Connect with Jodi Koch & Elizabeth Erin Designs

Website:
https://elizabetherindesigns.com

Designing in 5D on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/show/6SH9NbnLfhCmEyZsJ0r0f8

Designing in 5D on Apple Podcasts:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/designing-in-5d/id1778045559

Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/elizabetherindesigns/

Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ElizabethErinDesigns/

TikTok:
https://www.tiktok.com/@elizabetherindesigns

YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/@ElizabethErinDesigns5D

Pinterest:
https://www.pinterest.com/elizabetherindesigns/

LinkedIn | Jodi Koch:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodipeterman

LinkedIn | Elizabeth Erin Designs:
https://www.linkedin.com/company/elizabeth-erin-designs

Linktree:
https://linktr.ee/elizabetherindesigns

Connect with Lisa Lacy

https://lisalacy.com

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