You’ve been rescued by God, but you’re not yet fully resurrected. So, what about the in-between?

In this episode of Not Just Sunday, Keith and Patrick explore the process of real, lasting change: how it happens, how long it takes, and why it’s so much harder (and slower!) than we expect.

They break down the tension between God’s role and our responsibility, and why transformation isn’t about just trying harder; it’s about being trained by Jesus. From disordered loves to spiritual disciplines, they invite you to think differently about growth, progress, and what it means to follow Jesus over time.

You'll hear why change is about more than just willpower, what it means to be trained, and how God transforms our desires, not just our behavior.

If you feel like your growth is too slow or not enough, this episode is for you. Change is possible. But it’s not instant. And we hope you walk away from this one encouraged to let God lead the pace and the process.

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