The Normal Men dive into appellate immigration strategy and the Battle of Chicago with Mark Fleming of National Immigrant Justice Center.  Also, stroads and the modern authoritarian; primary ethics and efficiency.

National Immigrant Justice Center: https://immigrantjustice.org/

Illinois Coalition for Immigrant & Refugee Rights: https://www.icirr.org/

Organized Communities Against Deportation:  https://www.organizedcommunities.org/