How do you rebuild trust after betrayal?

Can a relationship survive cheating—and even come back stronger?

In this powerful episode of Natalie Saves the World: One Podcast at a Time, I talk to Dr. Bruce Chalmer and Judy Alexander—a couple who’s been married for over 21 years and co-host the "Couples Therapy in Seven Words" posdcast.

We explore what really happens when trust is broken in a relationship, and how couples can not only recover, but reconnect on a deeper level.

🔍 We discuss:

-The difference between emotional vs. physical betrayals

-Whether all betrayals are forgivable

-The "seven words" that can help save relationships

-Why couples crave both stability and excitement—and how they conflict

-How healing is possible after cheating, and how infidelity can even bring couples closer together

-What inspired their latest books

📚 Books mentioned in this episode:

➡️ Betrayal & Forgiveness by Dr. Bruce Chalmer: https://ctin7.com/books

➡️ The Blue Tent: Tales of Erotica from the Bible by Judy Alexander: https://lariazylber.com

🎧 Connect with Bruce & Judy:

💻 Website: https://ctin7.com

📺 YouTube Channel:    / brucechalmer  

🎵 "Holyoke" song:    • Holyoke - song by Judy Alexander and Bruce...  🔔

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