In this classic episode from the Namaste Archive, Cally talks to comedian and podcaster Rich Wilson about Northern soul, mods, vintage Vespas, Tik Tok, shoes, more shoes, mental health, barbers, gender stereotypes, parenting, anger, therapy, authenticity, music and turning 50.

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Produced by Mike Hanson for Pod People Productions

Music by Jake Yapp

Cover design by Jaijo

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