In this classic episode from the Namaste Archive, Cally talks to celebrity chef Jack Stein about parenting, time differences, cooking, travel, food, being ginger, Cornwall, chips, psychology, nature, nurture, fear of flying, tabloid press, fame, trolls, and love at first sight.

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Produced by Mike Hanson for Pod People Productions

Music by Jake Yapp

Cover design by Jaijo

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