In this classic episode from the Namaste Archive, Cally talks to comedian Esther Manito about starting out, writing, stereotypes, judgement, maternity leave, parenting, parents, role models, being an outsider, professional envy, fitting in, inspiration and perspiration.

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Produced by Mike Hanson for Pod People Productions

Music by Jake Yapp

Cover design by Jaijo

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