What if peacemaking meant moving into people’s lives instead of waiting for them to come to the table? In this profound conversation, renowned peacemaker Dr. John Paul Lederach shares how presence, story, and deep listening can transform conflict—and why this “circulation” approach looks a lot like Jesus.02:29 John Paul Lederach’s journey with conflict transformation

07:48 How do we approach conflict today?

10:01 Humiliation and dehumanization

12:20 The way of Jesus with conflict

16:01 A story from Maze prison in Belfast

19:25 What formation is needed? Looking at Defensiveness

24:52 The Pause of Curiosity

26:16 The Vocational Pause

30:22 Fixing conflict vs. wounded companions

36:58 This moment in time?

42:29 Hope in the Everyday and the Local

46:28 Circulatory Approach

48:24 Learning from insects

55:31 Deepening in circles vs. linear “fixing

59:49 Jesus’ circulatory “along the way” ministry

01:02:23 Final encouragement

01:07:49 Closing reflection