Neil and Eric break down how TBPN scaled to $10M+ in podcast revenue with $300+ CPMs, 20 ads per episode, and high-value B2B sponsors, proving niche audiences can outperform massive reach. They debate Goldman Sachs’ AI agents vs SaaS prediction, why outcomes beat tools, and how OpenAI’s new Frontier platform could power enterprise AI agents. Plus, smart investing psychology, why you can’t time the market, Anthropic vs OpenAI Super Bowl ads, and how to create content that attracts high-paying customers instead of just views.

High-CPM podcast monetization strategy revealed

AI agents vs SaaS future explained

Why long-term investing beats trading

Chapters

(00:00) TBPN $10M Podcast Breakdown

(01:56) AI Agents vs SaaS Debate

(03:40) Investing Psychology Lessons

(07:33) Hiring & Content Strategy

(14:34) OpenAI Frontier Explained

(17:05) Anthropic vs OpenAI Ads