Today we welcome the scriptwriter, comedian and journalist Athena Kugblenu for a chat about getting older. Which is good, because Molly needed to hear all this. We also talk about procrastination, what you get out of having a day job, industry rudeness and where Athena gets her ideas from.

You can buy Athena's latest children's history book History's Most Epic Fails here!

The book she recommended was Heiresses by Miranda Kauffman.

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