Episode Description
Lauren Makler, Co-Founder & CEO of Cofertility, joins Christina Farr to ask why having a baby with medical help now costs as much as a house, and what a fairer system would look like. They get into Lauren's argument that donor "anonymity" has been a lie since the at-home DNA test era, the surge-pricing dynamics of traditional egg donation, and Cofertility's egg-sharing model, where women freeze their eggs for free by donating half to intended parents. The conversation also covers the natalism debate, the eggs-versus-embryos decision, and why Gen Z, 72% of whom already worry about their fertility, will refuse the fax-machine healthcare experience millennials tolerated.
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Join Christina for an upcoming webinar:
• 7/27 - Peptide Therapy: Where Do We Go From Here? - https://streamyard.com/watch/AgaHuDEvjisN
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LINKS:
Infertility: https://www.cofertility.com/
Chrissy Farr on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LiferswithChristinaFarr
Chrissy Farr on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cfarr/
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Lead In
(00:33) Intro
(02:19) Why IVF costs keep rising
(03:53) Real price ranges to parenthood
(05:47) Birth rates and pronatalism debate
(08:45) Elon Musk and ethics
(11:15) Cofertility egg sharing model
(13:18) Ending anonymous donation
(15:57) Sponsor: Baker Health
(17:14) Surge pricing and fairness
(20:29) Biological clock and Gen Z
(25:27) Dating culture, eggs vs embryos
(28:58) Future of third party reproduction
(32:23) Guardrails and autonomy
(34:30) Investing thesis, growing the TAM
(38:07) Would you donate, relationship spectrum
(42:46) Gen Z will redefine healthcare
(44:55) Wrap