Shiny Happy People star Chad Harris joins us on this episode to discuss the latest developments in the Joe/Kendra Duggar cases. We discuss the potentially fake documents published by Katie Joy of the YouTube Channel "Without a Crystal Ball," the Joe/Kendra Duggar phone call, statements made by Jinger/Jeremy, and Jason/Maddie. In the third segment we answer listener questions about the arrests, about the Duggars, and about the IBLP in general.

These are the two appeals to loss of parental rights cases we mentioned in the episode.

https://law.justia.com/cases/arkansas/court-of-appeals/2025/cv-24-747.html

https://law.justia.com/cases/arkansas/court-of-appeals/2025/cv-25-38.html

00:00 - Intro

01:44 - Subscribe to our Patreon!

02:20 - NO VICTIM SPECULATION

02:45 - Katie Joy and the fake(?) court documents

04:50 - What is a trusted source?

08:04 - Josh got visitation with his kids

11:02 - Thank you to our patrons!

12:48 - Statement from Jinger and Jeremy

15:40 - Statement from Jason and Maddie

19:50 - IBLP fails young men

22:00 - Phone call between Joe and Kendra

24:58 - Kendra is in a difficult spot

29:25 - Every home is a cult and every father is a cult leader

30:23 - Why do we talk about this? The stakes are high!

34:53 - Listener Questions! 35:17 - 6th amendment rights

37:35 - Why did Jim Bob want to be on TV?

40:47 - Child Endangerment Clarification

45:08 - What if the Duggars were allowed to date?

47:29 - Gothardism and Jim Bob's trauma

53:54 - Why are all the Duggar daughters social media influencers?

55:35 - Did Jim Bob and Michelle reconsider their choices?

55:58 - Why do the women stay?

57:50 - How to bring down the IBLP

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