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S4 EP6 - Leading Complex Change: Breaking Through Practical Barriers and Political Resistance

Dec 1, 2025
43 mins

Episode Description

Guest: Dame Emily Lawson, formerly COO, NHS England, and Head of Number 10's Delivery Unit


Emily has considerable experience of leading change in complex professional organisations, including leading the initial rollout of the COVID-19 vaccine programme across the UK. 


Laura asks: How do you manage to not be overwhelmed by complexity or discouraged by failure? How do you bring the right team together and deal with covert resistance?


Website: https://www.lauraempson.com/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LeadingProfessionals

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/professor-laura-empson-69820773/

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