If you ask employees at EPPO who the CEO is, they will answer: there is no CEO! In this episode, Rodrigo Ventre shares the story of transforming his father's company into a self-managing organisation. We talk about his lifelong passion for human development and the increasingly radical experiments he has encouraged in the domains of business, culture, and governance.

It was not an easy journey, but today EPPO is celebrated in Brazil for its innovative organisational model and being an inspiring place to work. This episode is a warts-and-all story including insights from a systems level, but also from Rodrigo as a father and a human being.

Resources:

• The EPPO case study from INSEAD

• More about Target Teal in Brazil (where you can also learn more about Organic Organization or O2)

• Related Leadermorphosis episodes:

• • Ep. 70 with Ravi Resck on the future of work movement in Brazil

  • Ep. 41 with Michael Y. Lee on what the academic world is learning about decentralised organisations

  • Ep. 55 with Frederic Laloux, author of Reinventing Organisations