I speak to the enormously successful campaign of Zorhan Mamdani, his charisma, the very practical policy goals set by his run for mayor of New York City, and how you will be disappointed.

"I just want to be really transparent and honest about the fact that I, too, feel many of the feelings that people have about this, while also having this other part of myself, which I don't want to describe as pessimistic as much as just realistic."

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