Capitol Hill is eerily quiet — lawmakers are in recess — but the backrooms should be on fire. DHS funding talks have stalled as the partial government shutdown enters day three.

Guest host Jason Chaffetz with House Majority Whip Tom Emmer, Alex Gray, David Bahnsen, Gianno Caldwell, Theo Wold, and Rep. Byron Donalds

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